Temecula girl dies after removal from life support

By: JOHN HALL - Staff Writer
15-year-old was injured during brawl last week | Monday, February 18, 2008 10:28 PM PST

A Temecula girl injured last week during a brawl has died after being taken off life support, authorities said Monday.

Paola Montufar, 15, was pronounced dead at 12:20 p.m. Saturday at Rady Children's Hospital San Diego, a spokesman for the San Diego County medical examiner's office said.

Her body has been returned to Riverside County and an autopsy is scheduled today, said Sgt. Dennis Gutierrez, spokesman for the county sheriff-coroner's office.

Paola had been on life support since being hospitalized after getting caught in the middle of a brawl Feb. 12 at Wabash and Cupeno lanes in Temecula.

Temecula police have said Paola was punched by a 17-year-old girl when she tried to intervene during a fight involving Paola's boyfriend and a former boyfriend. The Great Oak High School student possibly hit her head on a curb when she fell to the ground after being hit, police said.

When officers arrived, the girl was unconscious. Officers administered CPR until paramedics got there.

While the 10 or so young people at the fight have been identified and interviewed -- including the teen who reportedly threw the punch -- no arrests have been made, police said.

"Now, we need to wait and see what the cause of death was," Temecula Police Chief Jerry Williams said Monday.

Because of the girl's grave condition immediately after the fight, homicide investigators were called to the scene.

After police complete their investigation, they will determine whether to ask the district attorney's office to file charges in connection with the girl's death.

Last week, before Paolo's death, a family member confirmed the girl had a heart problem.

Paolo and her family moved to Temecula from National City last summer, the family member also said.

"She's not one of those girls that goes looking for a fight," the relative said last week.

-- Contact staff writer John Hall at (951) 676-4315, Ext. 2628, or jhall@californian.com.

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Yikes wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:16 AM:No one in custody.... Unbelievable!

robert wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:46 AM:this is why kids should not date this is so sad i have 6 girls and my wife and i agreed no dating until you finish school if they dont like it to bad school is more important than some silly little boy ... and no we dont keep them locked up in the house they all go out with there friends and they do teeagers stuff but when it comes to boys that is out of the question she died for what a stupid fight she was tryinn to stop ...

Oh no... wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:45 AM:god bless her family. How sad to raise a girl to this age to have her killed like this. I can't imagine.

To Robert wrote on Feb 19, 2008 7:20 AM:Good luck with that 'no dating' thing ... but don't be surprised when you find out they've gone behind your back and done it anyway.

Right on Robert! wrote on Feb 19, 2008 7:28 AM:Teenagers need activities that do not include dating at such a young age. They have the rest of their lives to stress out on boys/girls and the problems they bring. Parents; please spend time with your teenagers! Plan weekend trips, take advantage of enjoying your children before they grow up and leave the nest.

Julie wrote on Feb 19, 2008 7:49 AM:it absolutely breaks my heart to hear about this. my heart bleeds for her family.......friends,......God took this young one for reason. it is not our place to ask why. i do hope, that thru this trajedy, that teens take a hard look at what can happen from sweating the small stuff. she lost her life because of others not being able to control their tempers. fighting, period, is not the way to solve problems. walk away......i did when i was young, it was not easy to do. teens-do not put yourself in a position for this to happen. learn from this loss.....

Huh?? wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:08 AM:Determine whether to file charges? Yes. Yes absolutely!

Right on Robert - We did the same wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:28 AM:We had the same rules for our kids (now 22 and 24) and they did not go behind our backs, they understood the rules and did very well in school and beyond. I am very sad for this little girl and can't image what the family must be going through. My sympathy to them. I hope others learn from this tragedy.

Consequences wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:44 AM:Besides the loss of a beloved child and/or friend.
CALIFORNIA PENAL CODE
192. Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without
malice. It is of three kinds:
(a) Voluntary--upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion.
(b) Involuntary--in the commission of an unlawful act, not
amounting to felony; or in the commission of a lawful act which might
produce death, in an unlawful manner, or without due caution and
circumspection.
(c) Vehicular--

Neighbor wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:51 AM:To all those who don't think the kids shouldn't be charged as adults.... put yourselves in the parents' position. What would you do if YOUR 15 year old child died from a "little accident"? Fighting is no accident, you should ALWAYS be prepared for hitting someone the wrong way, and instantly killing them or injuring them permenately. THAT is why fighting is wrong. Yes it's hard to walk away, I have done it many times myself. Being a parent myself, I would DEFFINATELY want the person responsible for hitting the girl to be charged as an ADULT!!

Life Lessons wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:53 AM:This is a life changing event for everyone involved, the school and all of its students, the kids who were fighting, the parents of the child who died and the parents of those who were fighting. Let's hope this great loss to all will be used to teach the life lessons that should have been known prior to the incident. Nothing will ever be the same for any of them and the parents will never have their precious child back.

Agree, Robert! wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:02 AM:We have a teen girl in high school. My wife and I purposely provide our daughter with opportunities and outlets to fulfill her need for enjoyment and excitement. And, guess what, it works! Weekend trips, allowing her friends to come to our house to hang out while we're home, day trips to the park to hit softballs and kick soccer goals, painting ceramic crafts at a local shop, etc... We understand this requires LOTS of our time and even though our daughter may not realize that this lifestyle is intentional on our part, it's a small price to pay for the sake of minimizing the likelihood that our daughter would get involved with boys too young. Readers, don't let any parent tell you that preventing your teenage daughter from getting involved with the wrong crowd is not possible.

Syl wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:21 AM:Mt daughters, as long as they are living in my house will not date untill they are 18. If they do not like it then they can leave. I keep reading stories about these romances and even marriages at age 15 to 18 and I feel that is so third world. I am not paying for the best private schools around so that my kids can throw it away on a silly romance or a teenage pregnancy. But the best part of all of this is that I trust my children to do what is right for themselves, I do not think I will be dissappointed.

thomas... wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:28 AM:From the little I have heard or read about this painful situation I sure get the feeling that there are a large % of people that live in Temecula that are blessed with being able to throw the first stone!

Right on Robert! wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:29 AM:What did happen here? We are not getting the correct information from the press. Did the yourg girl fall back and hit her head on the curb? I'm sure the investigators are gathering all of the facts such as; the 17 year old's prior history. Did she use a devise or weapon? How many fights has she been involved in at GOHS ect...
I have two kids at this high school, is this a safe school?

I've heard wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:45 AM:from people that live in the area up there that there are alot of problems with the high schools. There is alot of bullying going on and fighting. It's sad when you move somewhere you expect to be better, have a long commute, and then the schools are not what you expected. I think there are alot of latch key kids in Temecula with nothing to do. I feel for the parents and am sorry for their loss.

Bo wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:52 AM:Very few teenagers make it to adulthood without being involved in at least one fight; it just one of the stupid, reckless things that kids naturally do. It's extremely rare for these fights to end in a death, I highly doubt that anyone of the 10 or so kids involved in this fight had anticipated or intended this outcome. Trying the assailant as an adult in this case is ridiculous! One child has already been lost. Locking up another child until they are 25 will not bring this girl back. It will just mean that another Temecula family loses a child, and it will ensure that this child gets an advanced education in criminal behavior instaed of a chance to redeem herself!

Carnes wrote on Feb 19, 2008 9:58 AM:Yes, the school is safe. The family should know about an organization called The Unforgettables. www.theunforgettables.com They will help pay burial costs for children under the age of 18 in Riverside County. If anyone actually knows this family - please let them know there is compassionate help out there for them. How tragic.

parent of GOHS kids wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:00 AM:Its so horrific to have to make the decision to take your child off of life support. She was only on it for a few days, I'm sure the Doctors must have said there was no hope. When there is a head trauma though, its very difficult to know that until they have been stabilized enough to have appropriate and extensive tests She was at a great hospital, I have to pray they did everything they could, because now the parents have to live with the fact that they made the decision to remove her from life support. I don't think I could do it. I feel so much hurt for them. I guess the only thing that gives me any comfort is that her time was done here. She will leave a legacy of some sort, and will have touched the lives' of many. I hope these kids way of thinking is altered forever and in a positive way.

Many future blessings for love and light for this family.

Laura wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:22 AM:Just a bit of information...my daughter goes to a middle school in Temecula, and is only in 6th grade, and you would be surprised at how much bullying there is even in 6th grade. Little girls starting their cliques and picking on other girls. I know it happens alot, but in 6th grade??? Well I attempted to have one of the teachers call me back and she stated that there is nothing that she can do and when I informed her I would go straight to the Superintendent of the district, she said all I would do would be upseting the principle since I hadnt gone through him. So I offered to set up an appointment with the principle, she and I, and then was informed that he would not have time to meet with me for somwthing I should handle myself. WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO???? A parent guides their child to do what is right and since the teachers are underpaid, they will not help. I was just alarmed to see the reaction that I did.

Laura wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:24 AM:My heart goes out to Paola's family and to all the children involved in this terrible tragedy. I can only imagine the myriad emotions the family members, witnesses, neighbors, all Paola's fellow classmates at GOHS are experiencing. I once believed that Temecula was somehow a "safe" place to raise my three children. Senseless violence affects the entire community.

carnes wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:30 AM:The schools are safe here. It really is quite a nice town and for its size has very few violent crimes.
If anyone knows this family, please tell them to call the Unforgettables in Riverside. I am not affiliated with this group, but they will help pay for the burial of children under 18. I would hate to see this family suffer financially as well as emotionally.

So Sad wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:41 AM: I am so, so sorry this ugly pointless brawl turned into a tragic loss of life and perhaps another loss in the criminal system. I agree with Bo. The girl who threw the punch should take responsibility and be accountable, but prisons are for serious criminals. I feel so badly this happened, so sorry for the family, and I pray that the authorities make the right decision for all involved.

Kelly wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:46 AM:Charges must be brought against the girl who ended Paola Montufars' life. People regardless of their age must suffer the consequences of their actions. Yes, it is sad that this happened but none the less it happened. We must hold those involved accountable. I am extremely sad and heartbroken for this family who lost their little girl and extend my deepest and sincerest sympathy.

fr4444 wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:47 AM:after reading everyones comments on this i feel that first of all i dated when i was a freshman in high school as do many other young girls who did not ever get involved with fighting or any drama due to a boyfriend. so the fact that parents keep thier child from dating for that simple reason is a cop out. maybe to absatin them from sex but not from fighting. that can happen in any given situation not just because she was dating. it could have been over a best friend or over money or over something erally stupid. and also to go back on the person saying there are alot of problems at temecula schools, well news flash!!! there are problems at every school. no matter where you go. when i was in in HS i wmoved to poway because i thought it was going to be a better school then where i was suppose to go and each year there were problems, racist skinhead fights, drug busts, car accidents, deaths, fights almost every week over stupid [things that people think you wouldn't really fight over. my heart and prayers go out to her family but girlfriend should ahve thought twice about getting in the middle of a fight. like i said im not saying im sorry for her death and i hope this never happens again. i am really sorry to her family and may god bless them all. and to that poor girl im sorry thats all i can say

Carne Asada wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:47 AM:Carnes wrote that the school is safe. How do you know that? With the rampant drug problem at GOHS you consider it safe? The CITY evens knows it's not safe! Go ahead and keep telling yourself stories about how good and safe the city is, maybe someone will believe you. ...

Very sad... wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:49 AM:My sincere condolences to the family. Events like this chill the experience of life for all who hear of them. There is no justice in the death, no sense. Why did it happen? There is no answer. Does God care? Is there a god?

Parent of GOHS student and former resident of neighborhood wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:50 AM:As a parent of 3 kids, two who graduated from TVHS and one currently in GOHS and a former resident of the neighborhood where this transpired I would argue with someone who says there are problems with the school up here. The principals and staff are awesome, the GPA's are some of the highest in the county along with the ratio of college graduates. I have lived in the neighborhood for almost 19 years before moving closer to GOHS and it has always been a great place to raise your kids. Because of a group of teenagers of which several were from different neighborhoods I don't think that should be a deciding factor in sending your kids to Temecula schools. Look around at some of the areas and do a comparison you would be surprised. Deepest sympathy to the family as this is something no parent should ever have to go through.

So Sad wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:54 AM: John Hall reports that "last wk...it was confirmed she suffered from a heart problem." Who is the 'family member' that supplied this info? Was this on file w/ the school nurse? Was she under doctors care? How is this relevant to the head injury?

I don't mean to discuss this like a CSI episode because I am truly, deeply saddened by this loss. The reporting just leaves so many unanswered questions that I hope, in time, will be answered.

To parent GOHS kids wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:59 AM:CHSD is a great hospital. I have a daughter who needs treatment there on a regular weeekly basis. I also know for a fact they don't just make a decision to take a child off life support. There are many tests done first - i.e., brain scans to see if there is any activity. So rest assured, this family did what they felt was right and what the doctors felt was right. Never, ever, is this a quick decision.

To Laura wrote on Feb 19, 2008 11:13 AM: The principal should have met w/ you but I am not surprised you were "shut out" by the district. I had an ongoing struggle w/a parent who is a Civil Attorneyy as well as PTA Pres of my daughters' former elementary school. She's in 7th and we went to talk to her former teacher one day after school and this PTA Pres saw me, interrupted my mtg, had me escorted off campus and called 911, claiming I "frightened" her 4th grade daughter, who I did not even see. The principal said she had no jurisdiction over the PTA Pres so I contacted the district and was told to "put it in writing". The woman at the district level then forwarded my confidential letter to this PTA Pres/Attorney who used it to file a restraining order against me, barring me from my daughters' elem school, the school she attended for six years. Be careful who you tick off in this town because they, and their friends, will get you!

Believe me it can be done wrote on Feb 19, 2008 11:15 AM:I am in full agreement with those who say they will not allow their daughters to date until they are 18 years old. I did that with my daughter and she turned 18 this month. Yes, you will encounter the naysayer’s. You will encounter those who say it can’t be done. Those who say she will go out and do it behind your back. If you instill the right values in your children they will obey you. At my daughters birthday party some of her long term friends told me that they wish their parents would have done what we did with our daughter. In my daughters circle she has had friends get pregnant, one of them more than once. It is difficult for these young girls to understand why after they have sex with a guy he leaves them and goes on to the next girl. It is intense. I think girls under 18 are just not ready for the emotional stress. So I would like to encourage parents of young girls to focus on the important things…..not boys. It is so hard for them to get over broken hearts, and rejection. Then you have these situations occur over jealously. So say what you like but I succeeded in keeping my daughter away from this drama and she, and I are glad about it.

To fr4444 from fr5555 wrote on Feb 19, 2008 11:19 AM:I guess you just don't get it, do you!! This girl would not have been involved in this brawl had she not dated. Those are the facts of this story.

Anne wrote on Feb 19, 2008 11:29 AM:How does an argument between 2 boys turn into a brawl? I wonder what the relationship is between the 17 year old who threw the punch and the others involved. Why did she involve herself?
Very sad for all the families...

Carnes wrote on Feb 19, 2008 11:31 AM:To CARNE ASADA: bit of a bully yourself, eh? I know the school is safe because I am very very involved in it. I have a daughter who attends the school. yes, there are problems just like any other school. However, we don't, as a general rule, have the degree of bullies and threats that other schools in cities our size have.I also know that the counselors, teachers and principals all do the best they can. I have had issues w/ the school and they have been dealt with in a quick professional manner. I don't plan to pull my kids out of there because of this. There is a police presence at the school everyday - as there is at all the other schools in town. And yes, there are minor fights most days at GOHS. Move on up to Disneyland if you want safe - - oh yea, they have problems too. Anyway, she wasn't hurt at school.

carnes wrote on Feb 19, 2008 11:43 AM:Before everyone yells at me about the bulling - yes, it is there! Unfortunately, some of these kids never learn compassion. I even pulled one child out of school for a year of home schooling because the bullying got so bad - and believe it or not - it was because she had the same name as someone else! I could not get anywhere with that middle school. That was also 6th grade - 7th grade.

N/A wrote on Feb 19, 2008 11:47 AM:All the families involved are heartbroken over what has happened. It is a tragedy, pray for the family who lost their baby. These young people are all Gods children. The facts are not being reported in the media or the newspaper. It should be the reporting agency’s responsibility to report accurate information. This wasn’t a case of a young girl being viciously attacked. Nothing is being said what involvement the girl’s 18 yr old boyfriend, her heart condition and that may the poor girl may have assaulted the other teen first. IT IS A TRAGEDY...Please be responsible in what is reported.

To Carnes wrote on Feb 19, 2008 11:53 AM: No one is yelling at you. We're all just frustrated and sad. What middle school did you have trouble with? Name names!

Escondido Reader wrote on Feb 19, 2008 11:56 AM:I am appalled by all the "my daughter may not date" steam and froth. Two boys start this fight. Two BOYS. Sounds like it's fine for boys to beat one another, but not for girls to date. Maybe they should all wear headscarves and not be allowed out of their houses without an escort.

Suzie wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:01 PM:I can see how a knee jerk reaction would be to shelter your kids and not allow them to date until they are 18, I just don't see how that helps the girls in the long run. Don't they need to learn how to deal with young men in a gradual manner? I would think an 18 year old boy with a little experience in the dating world could be a bit overwhelming for and inexperienced 18 year old girl. I say they need to start learning to say NO loud and clear at about 16. Worked very well for my kids.

Friend of Family wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:12 PM:To Carnes: Thanks for the info for help in burial expenses. I will pass this on.

To Very Sad: Don't give up on God. So many things happen in our life time that we don't have answers to, but to give up on GOD is to give up on yourself. It helps me to believe that Paola was needed much more somewhere else and that her life here on earth, as short as it was, was NOT in vain. It helps me to believe this in order to get through this terrible time right now.

are you kidding? wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:37 PM:"This girl would not have been involved in this brawl had she not dated. Those are the facts of this story."

Please don't state something as a fact if you don't know it to be true. There was a lot more to this story you don't know. Had she dated or not. Don't be so ignorant.

To Escondido Reader wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:42 PM:This entire fight was about the girl. Perhaps you should re-read the article this little 15 year old girls former boyfriend and current boyfriend, yes, absolutely this is about girls dating!

it can't be done wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:49 PM:To all this no dating until adulthood. Sometimes it works. But from personal experience the girls that were sheltered and couldn't date in highschool were the ones that went buck wild in college and slept around the most... not everytime.. but often. And most of they're parents still thought they were angels.. haha

To Suzie wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:50 PM:No, girls should not date until they are 18. Sorry but I just don't think they can make responsible choices. I do not think a girl should have to be put in the position to say NO loud and clear. It may have worked for your kids but I would rather not have my daughter confuse puppy love with real love and end up marrying a man she meet when she was 14 and make a hugh mistake. What on earth do you mean when you say "I would think an 18 year old boy with a little experience in the dating world could be a bit overwhelming for and inexperienced 18 year old girl. A decent young man would know just how to treat a respectful young woman. Just what experience are you talking about? SEX, yeah that's what I thought.

To Friend of Family: wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:54 PM:Please do pass it along. These people at Unforgettables are really kind and started this organization to help families exactly like this one. You could even start the ball rolling yourself by calling them. the hospital may have already done it.
I am also sure the people of Temecula would step up to help if a fund were set up. You know how giving the people are here. Anytime a child dies, it tugs at ones heart.

Once again it is our job to worry!!!! wrote on Feb 19, 2008 12:56 PM:I just want to say that we as parents never stop worrying about our children. When we are pregnant we worry about our baby being born healthy. Then the baby is born and we sit and watch her/him sleep and make sure they are breathing alright. Then they begin to walk and we follow them around so they don’t fall and hurt themselves. Then we teach them to look both ways before they cross the street and never talk to strangers. Yeah we got them through elementary school. Then we need to make sure they make right choices in their friends, and are not negatively influenced. We are then concern ourselves with kidnappers and other dangers. So it’s off to high school, we then need to worry about drugs, alcohol, and jealous girls who have the potential to be violent. Even after they leave our home we are still concerned about them. So it seems all our life we are trying to keep our kids out of harms way and at the end of the day, thank God that all is well. Sadly, in some cases it does not end well, and now a family is suffering the most horrific and painful experience of their lives.

Vista Reader wrote on Feb 19, 2008 1:01 PM:And if people didn't drive cars, people wouldn't get in car accidents. Because she dated is not why she died. She died because someone else thought it was okay to get violent.

BOTTOM LINE: STOP THE VIOLENCE.

Temec Mom wrote on Feb 19, 2008 1:26 PM:==It's different nowadays..kids who merely like each are said to be "going out" and boyfriend & girlfriend even though they barely know each other. That's what they call it. And the 2 boys did not fight while on a DATE, they were walking home from school, probably smack talkin'. And though I agree opposite-sex involvement should be limited before 18, I don't think dating was the problem here. Intensity of feelings-yes. Lack of supervision-yes. Our violent society-sadly yes.
My prayers go out to all involved.

Steve wrote on Feb 19, 2008 1:53 PM:Well here it is again, Temecula PD unable to do their job. As usual they don't arrest even the most obvious offenders (they may have to do some actual work). We have lived just down the street from Great Oak H.S. since it's construction. We have the WHITE SUPEREMIST (skin heads), terorrizing our neighborhood for years. On numerous occasions when the PD are called by people in the neighborhood regarding their actions, nothing is done(only later do we find no reports were filed) even when the PD says reports are being taken. Our neighborhood between 7-8am and 2-3pm every day is is a NASCAR test track. The PD says there is nothing they can do. Weekly there are fights after school, the school admin. tries to cover this up by saying it happened off school property (as they don't want to hurt their reputation). This is not a "dating problem" it is a "CRIME PROBLEM" and until we start taking some responsibility here in Temecula it is only going to get worse. This girl is DEAD, are your kids safe in Temecula?

Grammar is good, wrote on Feb 19, 2008 2:57 PM:I am stunned how poor the writing skills are on this and other boards. Spelling, grammar and communication skills are tremendously important and it takes so little effort to at least try to sound good. Writing like a third grader is fine when you are in third grade, but not when you are an adult. Read out loud what you write before sending it - run it through a spell- and grammar checker. You will feel better about yourself, just like you do after checking the mirror before you leave the house.

Josh wrote on Feb 19, 2008 3:16 PM:Submitted two previous post but they're not being reflected. If I'm doing something wrong, please let me know.
Josh

So Sorry wrote on Feb 19, 2008 3:21 PM:I can't imagine what these parents are going through. I definitely would want to see some justice...but what? I don't know if I am in favor of jail.
I myself am a forgiving person, however I would want those teens to be sentenced to ten years... not jail time. Every year for ten years I would want them to have to meet with me and my family at my daughters grave on what would have been her birthday. I would want them to say sorry the year she would have graduated, the year that they get married I would want them to say sorry to the fact that we would never see her walk down the aisle, and the year that they have kids I would would want them to say sorry for the kids that my daughter would never have or the grandchildren that would never be. I would want them to see our pain. I would hope and pray that they would never forget her or the pain that their decision caused.
To: Paola's Family, My family and I are truly sorry for your loss.

JJ wrote on Feb 19, 2008 3:23 PM:My heart and prayers go out to this family that lost their daughter/sister/cousin/etc. I am shocked that a young girl has died in a manner that shouldn't have happened but come on! blaming dating is not the way to go. Many girls date, just because they dont date, does not mean drama is not around. its high school, drama is everywhere. the clothes u wear, they way u look, grades, shoes u have, purse u have, blaming a girl dating for her death is stupid!

again all my blessings to this family...

So what wrote on Feb 19, 2008 3:37 PM:To "Grammer": What does your comment have anything to do with the topic of this forum? This is about the tragic death of a very young girl who had her life cut short because of someones thoughtless action. Skip the grammer lesson here and lets get down to the real lesson. Teaching our kids that violence is not acceptable. Never is it ok to strike another person. As a parent of a teenager, I put myself in this family's situation and would hope that the book is thrown at the person responsible for Paola Montufar's death. This 17 year girl is old enough to know right from wrong. Her actions took a life and now she should pay accordingly.

Grammar Police wrote on Feb 19, 2008 3:37 PM:Hey Grammar police- Don't you have anything better to do? A child died! Let people express themselves, and keep it on topic!

This is about the sad and needless loss of life. My heart breaks for this family.

Osider wrote on Feb 19, 2008 3:40 PM:NCT screener, I am getting sick and tired of you not posting my comments. Who the hell do you think you are?

Sarah wrote on Feb 19, 2008 3:57 PM:for those of you saying that temecula kids have nothing better to do, you're wrong. i am a student in temecula and the school system is great. yeah there are a few kids who like to start trouble, but they are everywhere. great oak is a very well established school. god bless her family and friends.

Cali wrote on Feb 19, 2008 3:57 PM:This is about teenagers taking things too far. We as a society dismiss it as teenage behavior. This behavior doesn't change as adults and it even gets worse for some of these young people who don't learn right from wrong. My daughter attended a school in this area and was bullied by several girls on a daily basis, for no particular reason. They would follow her from class to class and be waiting for her outside of the classroom when class ended (why were they out of class?), we contacted the school and were told that nothing could be done until something happened between the girls. At which point they would probably all be suspended for fighting even though my daughter had taken the steps to report these incidents. These girls then started calling her cell phone and harrassing her, it then extended to internet threats. We turned all this over to the local PD and they told us nothing could be done until something happened. We pulled out daughter out of this school because they refused to provide any sort of protection. We enrolled her in a private school where she graduated and has moved on with her life. We don't know what led up to this fight and whether or not the family tried to provide Paola with some sort of protection from this other girl/boy/group. All we know is the very sad end result. Teens took matters in to their own hands and they went to far! Their lives are forever changed. Consequences are consequences no matter what the age.

Paul wrote on Feb 19, 2008 3:59 PM:Julie ... first she says God took her then blames the fight for her death. Which is it?? Personally, I don't see God (who loves us) taking a child in such a violent manner. God doesn't have any need for our children and to blame him for this tragedy is wrong. Any of us can die at any time, and God has nothing to do with it... look up Ecclesiastes 9:11.

NCT Reviewer wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:15 PM:What is with the post dated Dec 31, 1969 at 4:00 pm?

sad wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:21 PM:so sad

Stephen wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:31 PM:It is wrong for anyone to worry. The parent who says that it is their job to so is incorrect. I suggest that he or she look up Matthew 6:25-33.

RM wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:45 PM:TO MATT wrote on Feb 16, 2008 9:45 PM:TO MATT - they will not be able to arrest the girl who punched her until they know if the victim lives or dies. If they charged her now, she could plead guilty to an assault charge. If the victim was to die a week or two later, the police would not be able to re-charge the suspect with murder or even manslaughter. That would be double jeapordy. So they will wait. They can wait a year or two if need be. Be patient. It will all work out. In the meantime, pray for the victim.

Vista Reader wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:52 PM:Whoa- what is going on with all these bible verses. I respect your views, but just becuase it means something to you doesn't mean it means something to everyone. I see the bible as historical fiction, I understand it is more to some people but please don't expect everyone to live by it.

Paul wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:53 PM:NCT Reviewer, the computer clock's battery has gone belly up, so the person's computer submitting the post on Dec 31, 1969 is defaulting to the bios default date.

Communication wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:56 PM:In defense of the grammar comment: If you cannot communicate legibly, how can you have fruitful communications with your child?

To Stephen wrote on Feb 19, 2008 4:59 PM:Stephen- telling someone they are wrong or incorrect based on your own personal interpretations is very closed minded.

Suzie wrote on Feb 19, 2008 5:12 PM:If you don't think your girls need to learn to say NO loud and clear, you are living in fantasy land. Sending a naive 18 year old on her first date with some 19 year old guy who's been dating for 3 years, is like tossing a 6 year old into first grade without the benifit of preschool or kindergarten. Some of them will make it, but most will be overwhelmed and ill equiped to deal with the realities they are faced with. Open dialog, sound moral advice and gradual introduction to dating is a far better way to deal with teen dating in my opinion. You are flat out in denial if you girls are going to high school dances and you think they are not in dating situations. Your denial does not help your girls, your information and training does. My mother used to say "you can do anything in the day you can do at night". Prepare your girls, don't toss them off the bridge until you teach them to swim!

sad friend wrote on Feb 19, 2008 5:23 PM:it is not right that the people involved have not been taken into custody! They took my friend away from me and it is not right!!! It was just so unpredictable...
I can't believe,though,that GOHS has not taken any care of this matter by allowing the students involved in the fight and the girl who threw the punch to still come to school. It is just so sad and i still cant believe that my Princess Paola is gone =(

sadfriend wrote on Feb 19, 2008 5:26 PM:it is not right that the people involved have not been taken into custody! They took my friend away from me and it is not right!!! It was just so unpredictable...
I can't believe,though,that GOHS has not taken any care of this matter by allowing the students involved in the fight ... to still come to school. It is just so sad and i still cant believe that my Princess Paola is gone =(

Cautious Mom wrote on Feb 19, 2008 6:10 PM:I am the wife of a police officer, not is Temecula. But I take offense at your statements. You do not know what going on behind the scenes. My husband puts his life on the line everyday for the scum bags of the world! Get over yourself. Personnally the girls that [allegedly] hit her should be brought up on manslaughter charges... I really do not care that she is 17...

student wrote on Feb 19, 2008 6:44 PM:First of all this is a tragedy that took place away from the school. Usually, the school can not do anything in regards to the students unless the threat is made at school. This is a criminal matter. The school can only keep a watchful eye on the students and continue to protect them. This tragedy could have taken place anywhere in America. Bullying is not just confined to GOHS. In regards to GOHS, 93% of students and 94% of parents surveyed at the beginning of the year consider GOHS to be a very safe place. Those are pretty good odds if you ask me. Let's not take this out on the school. We need to remember that a life was taken and we need to honor this young woman for the things that she accomplished. May god bless this family and her friends.

ruben wrote on Feb 19, 2008 6:46 PM:I knew Paola ,I was her friend whith her and my parents with hers.I feel so sorry for her parents and relatives I'm a 15 year old Mexican boy who had to move to Mexico and feel bad to not being able to be there for her family who is having a hard time with this.We will miss "Paola la bella" how she used to call herself.It is a horror what those people did to her

dan wrote on Feb 19, 2008 7:17 PM:With regard to justice, what the police fail to do, will ultimately be rectified in civil court.

To Dan wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:10 PM: Sorry, Dan, but you're living in a DREAM WORLD. Civil Court in Riverside County is a JOKE!

MOM wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:28 PM:MAY HER SOUL REST IN PEACE, AND THE MERCY AND LOVE OF OUR LORD BE WITH HER. TO THE FAMILY: MY DEEPEST SYMPATHY AT THIS TIME OF SORROW AND SADNESS, YOUR PRECIOUS GIRL WILL BE MISS AND IT WILL BE VERY HARD TO FORGET HER. BUT SHE WILL LIVE AS LONG AS YOU REMEMBER HER. I ALSO HAVE KIDS IN GOSH AND MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND BRAKES MY HEARTH THAT THIS HAPPEN TO ALL OF YOU. SADLY EVIL IS EVERYWHERE, AND THAT MAKE US ALL VULNERABLE TO HAVE TRAGEDY AROUND US ALSO. MY PRAYERS AND THOUGHTS TO ALL OF YOU. MAY GOD GIVE YOU PEACE AND CONSOLATION.

Concerned Parent wrote on Feb 19, 2008 8:29 PM:it is amazing to me that there has been no arrests in this matter or the matter of the twins that were killed in November. Is the city of temecula hoping that these matters will go away, disappear, well i hope that they realize that it will not just go away. My 15 year old daughter will carry the memory around with her for the rest of her life that in a matter of 4 months,3 of her class mates were killed and the people that are resposinsible for it are not being punished for it. What does that say about the justice system? What does that teach all the students at GOHS?

A friend of paola wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:09 PM:This is all very sad and it hurts me that she is gone just like that :(

Diane wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:17 PM:The last time I checked....if there was a 'crowd' gathered at an event and something criminal or deadly takes place...those in attendance that did nothing to stop the action are also held liable...

maggie wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:31 PM:my deepest and heartfilled sympathy to the family may our Father give you strength during this time . I didn't know your daughter but God knows her and she is in his presence. God Bless.

To Laura from Jaysen wrote on Feb 20, 2008 6:38 AM:Laura wrote on Feb 19, 2008 10:22 AM:Just a bit of information...my daughter goes to a middle school in Temecula, and is only in 6th grade, and you would be surprised at how much bullying there is even in 6th grade. Little girls starting their cliques and picking on other girls. I know it happens alot, but in 6th grade??? Well I attempted to have one of the teachers call me back and she stated that there is nothing that she can do and when I informed her I would go straight to the Superintendent of the district, she said all I would do would be upseting the principle since I hadnt gone through him. So I offered to set up an appointment with the principle, she and I, and then was informed that he would not have time to meet with me for somwthing I should handle myself. WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO???? A parent guides their child to do what is right and since the teachers are underpaid, they will not help. I was just alarmed to see the reaction that I did.


That is SAD. We just bought a house in Temecula because their school system has a better reputation than San Diego.I really hope your daughter doesn't have to go through the same situation. That Principal should be fired. At least you did try and any future problems will fall on his back. The teacher is no better. A childs safety is more important than a lazy principle getting upset. They are the kids guardians during school hours and need to keep a safe enviroment. The pinciple needs to realize he doesn't run a military camp. I hope that you can solve your problems.

To Julie wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:01 AM:God had nothing to do with this girls senseless tragedy . These young adults have not been educated to the fact that for every action there is a reaction & if your action causes serious injury there is a strong likelyhood you will be paying for it. This tragedy could have been avoided through education. ...

To Robert wrote on Feb 20, 2008 11:02 AM:Good luck on the no dating rule, that was my parents rules too. And all us 5 girls in the family went behind there backs to date and got pregnant to get out of their house. To not mean to discourage you just telling you the other side (the kid side)

To cautious mom wrote on Feb 20, 2008 12:16 PM:I agree with you 100%. People do not have a clue as to what goes on in law enforcement. This is the "Me" mentality. I want it now! The police know what they are doing. Everything thing done in a proper order. Whatever agency your husband works for I applaud him and you because you sacrifice as well.

To concerned parent wrote on Feb 20, 2008 12:19 PM:You have been watching too much TV. Let the police do their job, let the coroner's office do their job. Let the D.A.'s office do their job. I am sure there will be arrest but they have to have all their ducks in row. As for the murder/suicide that happend a while back. Who are they going to arrest? Do you know something the police don't know. Get real.

A Father wrote on Feb 20, 2008 1:40 PM:God bless you "Little Girl", the Angels told Him about you...

Get over yourselves wrote on Feb 20, 2008 4:00 PM:If ALL OF YOU making these comments are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem. Pray for her family and leave it at that...You all sound completely uneducated, self-centered and bored!

To Get over yourselves wrote on Feb 20, 2008 4:42 PM:hyp·o·crite
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
— hypocrite adjective

Weezie wrote on Feb 21, 2008 7:23 AM:There are police on all of the Temecula school grounds at least once a day. If you're children are being threatened by another student, report it to your schools assigned police officer.

Paola's Friend wrote on Feb 22, 2008 11:44 AM:wow. to all of you say that this is why people shouldnt date?! what the hell. this has nothing to do with dating. it has to do with people who cannot deal with their emotions and take their anger out on innocent people.
rest in paradise paola.
you will always live in our hearts.

To Cautious Mom on Feb 19 wrote on Feb 22, 2008 12:02 PM:Please do not try to make police officers sound righteous. They are human and driven by emotion and ego as many people are. I've had a police officer deliberately write an erroneous report not caring who was hurt. He even went as far as to put my number incorrectly on the report after I'd given it to him 4 times. (Would that make it appear that I deliberately gave him false information?) Either he was deliberate or DUMB. We need law officers that will file a report properly and allow the courts to make the decision if it goes that far. I have police and military relatives including myself so don't try to make it seem as though I'm a disgruntled person. I still believe in upholding the law and innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW.

Hopefully, this situation will be handled properly. My heart goes out to the family at this time. I'm sorry for your loss.

Ana Paolas FRIEND wrote on Feb 26, 2008 3:34 AM:FOR ALL THOSE WHO THINK THE CAUSE IS DATING.. ITS NOT.. ITS PARENTS WHO DONT KNOW HOW TO RAISE THEIR KIDS RIGHT. AND TEACH THEIR KIDS TO DEAL WITH THEIR ANGER. AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT PAOLA WAS NOT A FIGHTER. I KNOW HER AND HER FAMILY AND THEY ARE VERY PEACEFUL LOVING PEOPLE. PAOLA WAS GENUINELY NICE AND HAD A BEAUTIFUL SPIRIT.... YOUR ALWAYS IN OUR HEARTS PAOLA..

Ana... wrote on Feb 26, 2008 2:27 PM:i agree with you about parents never stop worring.. i never stop worrying about my baby... but theres some parents out there who dont.. or at least dont dissapline their child the way they should.. or teach them that violence is not the appropriate way to deal with anger or jealousy or any kind of problem.. thats all im saying.. and its also the child to chooce in what way they want to deal with things..

amy wrote on Mar 3, 2008 11:52 AM:A little girl died and everyone wants to jump in on how they are better parents by not letting their kids date. That has nothing to do with this issue. Perhaps if we all wrap our children in bubbles they will be safe. You think this town has bullies? Were you raised on a farm and homeschooled? Your 6th grader will be bullied as will your 7th, 8th and 9th grader. And when they grow up and get a job they might get bullied there too. Unless you plan on going to work there everyday with them to hold their hands and fight their battles. This poor girl hit her head. Not because she was dating or doing other teen things that every other teen in the world does. Its called a tragic accident. Stop pointing fingers and be thankful you still have your children to tuck in at night.

soneone who loved her wrote on Apr 4, 2008 11:22 AM:I loved paola very much she and i were very close it is a fact that she had a heart condition and all people around her knew about it that is not the issue ... it was not a easy desision to make to take her off life support but it was the right thing to do there was no longer any brain activity and out of it came a blessing for the three families that her organs saved lets leave it at that even in death she helped people and that should tell you what kind of a person she was we can only pray for her family and keep her in our hearts

Gina wrote on Sep 1, 2008 6:44 PM:I am so sorry this happened to her and her family.What a shame and waste of such a young life.I her and her family are in my prayers.My heart goes out to them

It is our job to worry!!! wrote on Dec 31, 1969 4:00 PM:I just want to say that we as parents never stop worrying about our children. When we are pregnant we worry about our baby being born healthy. Then the baby is born and we sit and watch her/hiall wear headscarves and not be allowed out of their houses without an escort.

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