is that it? wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:52 AM:Is that all the NC times has to report upon? Man oh man, talk about a slow news day. In a community of 100,000 people, there has to be more newsworthy events than one of the dozens of TP runs made over the weekend by kids having fun. How about an in-depth interview with someone of interest (local pol, sport figure, business owner etc...) Not some crybaby Mom with tpical teen stunt to cope with.

esteban wrote on Sep 25, 2007 5:52 AM:LMAO. that was funny and the mom needs to relax. Make your daughter clean it up the more you cry the more the kids have a reason to do it again.

Jamie wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:32 AM:Yes her actions are unusual and so is the NCT reporting on TP unusual. Which leads me to question why the NCT is so adamant about reporting TRUE NEWS? I guess NCT has new leadership and I would call it in the form muzzling free speech and truth.

what a joke wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:34 AM:I have a lot of stories that the NCT refuses to print and they are VERY NEWS WORTHY but again the NCT has way too many conflict of interests.

Valium wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:56 AM:Jeanne, get over yourself. You are REALLY not that important.

Former Teen wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:53 AM:(Rolling my eyes) I am sure that your daughter knows who it is! C'mon either she's hated or loved, seriously! Boo-hoo, cleaning up TP, at least you were not egged, floured, or salted!-

O'side Res wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:02 AM:Ohhhh, the poor daughter. I thought my wife stressed out about meaningless stuff.

I'll Tell Ya wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:20 AM:TPing may be fun, and homeowners may laugh, but it's a b...ch to clean up. I feel sorry for the mom. I had a neighbor who had daughters and they were TPd every year or so and last time they didn't clean it up for 6 months, in the front yard. It gets old, so lighten up "esteban" and "is that it?". She's not a crybaby mom!-

It's Vandalism wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:30 AM:These kids need to be taught that they have no right to deface the property of others ... period. Whether it's with toilet paper or spray paint. It's all vandalism and it's all wrong.-

Didimus wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:34 AM:Please relax mom. As both a former "victim" and "perpetrator" of TP wars, it's just for fun. If they wanted to be cruel, they'd be doing something else. Let the TP dry and it's easier to clean up. Use a high pressure nozzle on your hose to get it out of the tree. Please don't let this upset you so much. It's just for fun.-

oh boy wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:32 AM:meanwhile in leucadia the Encinitas Gang is painting graffiti all over town but nobody wants to talk about that. but toilet paper, thats news

Give me a break! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:54 AM:This is news! Mom, you just set your daughter up for quite a bit of ridicule at school! First of all, toilet papering is not a big deal. Even if they did a really good job, it is very easy to clean up. It doesn't take hours unless you are cleaning it up in the middle of the night when it is raining. That alone tells you someone is wound a little tight!! Having three boys, we have been toilet papered 25-30 times (not 2) and I have actually had adult friends of mine toilet paper my house because I didn't attend an outing with them. It is for FUN and is generally a sign that someone LIKES you. It is not a sign that people hate you or an act of being mean. As for cleaning it up, it should be your daughter's job!! Lighten up and please don't waste our law officer's time!!

Hiring someone to get it off of the palm trees! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:02 AM:Wow, tired of it! It has happened twice, big deal! Someone is extremely uptight and taking this as a personal assault. Catch the line "They could have waited for daylight for the cleanup, but her mom said she didn't want the toilet-paper crew to get the "visual satisfaction" of driving by in daylight and seeing their handiwork." That pretty much says it all. I would think an article like this will probably draw more toilet papering incidents and I can just see this mom sitting up late into the morning looking to catch the "horrible criminals" then blaming them for her lack of sleep! Please!

Hahaa wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:02 AM:What a whiner! Boo hoo. TP is not vandalism. You take it off, and it's like it was never there. She didn't want to give them the satisfaction of lettting them see what they did? But she will be more than willingly put pictures of it in the news paper? This lady doesn't even make sence. Seeing your TPing skills pictured in the news paper is like the Holy Grail of trophy's for a kid!

hehehehe wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:05 AM:She didn't want them to have "visual satisfaction"? Then why did she go to the press and have her picture put in the paper?!?! What kind of logic is that?!? If visual satisfaction is what these kids want, then they just hit the jackpot by making it to the paper.

halloween is coming! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:05 AM:Any have directions to the ladies neighborhood?

carlsbad res wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:10 AM:"My house has been been toilet papered as well. Get over it! These kid's are having fun and nobody is getting hurt over it. You need to think about the embarassment you are causing your daughter. "

spray painting, egging now that's vandalism! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:12 AM:Toilet papering is so minor Ms.Brandone! It is generally an act of flattery and once it dries is VERY EAST to cleanup no matter if it is 15 rolls or 40 rolls. They could have put shredded paper everywhere which does take a little bit of time to clean. If they wanted to be mean the house would have been egged or things spray painted. You cleaned it up in the middle of the night as to not give them the satisfaction of seeing it the next day ,well just imagine the perpetrators satisfaction when they realized you got up in the middle of the night, in the rain, to clean it up. Also the fact that you went to the police and the paper probably caused them more satisfaction! Come on now, it is generally seen as a rite of passage and is also a sign of being "liked". WOW.

Take a chill pill! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:19 AM:Jeanne, you don't need to hire anyone to get it out of your palm trees just get a straight nozzle and spray it out. I have 30 foot trees and that always works. Do you really think this is a big deal? If so, I feel sorry for your teen. She is now probably going to be the center of most jokes at the school! Please take a step back and look at the big picture next time.

Call in Homeland Security!! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 11:08 AM:Jeanne, please don't stop with the paper,your lawyer and the local police! These criminal perpetrators MUST be caught. Have you contacted the FBI and Homeland Security? I think they could help with this incident. Toilet papering must stop!! This can NOT be tolerated.

The poor daughter! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 11:26 AM:I guess my kids are pretty lucky not to have a mom that would embarass them in such a manner. I wouldn't be surprised if many of the kids at Carlsbad High School were sporting toilet paper today or tomorrow(ie. hanging out of their pockets, dangling from their backpacks).It could be quite the fashion statement!!

Randy wrote on Sep 25, 2007 11:51 AM:We should head over to the NCT headquarters- I'll bring the TP!

get control of your kids.. wrote on Sep 25, 2007 11:56 AM:Why do people here feel that these kids had a right to do this to someones private property? Its a pain in the rear to clean up and its just rude. Not even funny at all. The kids should be made to clean it up and given that 500 dollar fine to boot! Egging, tp'ing, its not a harmless prank, its rude and can damage property and causes someone else to have to spend their private time to fix someone elses "harmless prank." Get your kids in check and stop wasting peoples time with petty crimes!

Donate TP in Maria's name wrote on Sep 25, 2007 11:59 AM:Hey kids, start a newer fad. You want to TP Maria's or someone else's house? Instead, leave a note at their door that you donated 100 rolls of TP to a chldrens' or senior center. I bet they would appreciate it! After all, it is as NEEDED item for all. To Maria - it's NOT your fault. To the perps, seriously would you want to date a girl who has a mother who freaks out? But seriously, paper comes from trees and we need trees. The more we 'use or waste' TP, the more trees have to be cut, and global warming is REAL. We need the trees! SAVE OUR PLANET!

Jeann-O wrote on Sep 25, 2007 12:33 PM:RELAX! Getting so upset over a little teen TP session is truly ridiculous. It's really NOT "vandalism"... It's part of growing up. how you handle it Jeanne, teaches your daughter how to handle things when she's an adult. Why not just have Mr.Brandone stake out the yard next weekend with hose in hand to blast the horrid perpetrators?

wondering wrote on Sep 25, 2007 12:42 PM:what the real story is ... and what the heck does 'slender' have to do with anything? i am fat and my house was TP'd twice this summer too! i also had the privilege of cleaning an entire jug of hersheys syrup off my front door after it dried for 24 hours in 90 degree heat. i suppose i could implicate a slender 15 year old, but ... i rather enjoyed the attention and I suspect the young target of these hard core tp gangstas does too.

aaahhaaa wrote on Sep 25, 2007 1:01 PM:"Brandone has her suspicions that the incidents have something to do with her 16-year-old daughter -- a slender, dark-haired girl who's active in Carlsbad High School's band." Thats some fine detective work Ms. Brandone! We need take this to defcon 4!!!

Scott wrote on Sep 25, 2007 1:02 PM:If parents who think this is funny are "clueless" then the city is most likely 95% clueless people by her logic.

Former Teen wrote on Sep 25, 2007 1:18 PM:To "wondering"...I loved how you called them "TP gangtas", that is so funny! LMAO!

Slender? wrote on Sep 25, 2007 1:46 PM:WHat does her weight have anything to do with it? Fat people get TP'd too! Man...this is just too funny. Best comments I have ever seen on NCtimes.com. Bravo!

To: get control of your kids. wrote on Sep 25, 2007 1:48 PM:Cleaning up TP is NOT hard! It has been done to my house many of times and my kids can have it cleaned up in about 15 minutes! They also aren't threatened by it or feel that it is cruel. I think the real crime here is "the horrible destruction of 100 rolls of toilet paper" stated Jeanne. Come on "destruction" of toilet paper. I am curious how this article came to see print. Does the author, Barbara Henry, live near the Brandones? What might be more interesting is how TP came to be a fad. I know I did it 40 years ago and never had anyone freaking out. Yes, being caught a few times we apologized and cleaned it up. The neighbors all laughed at us as they watched us clean.

Talk to Captain Shipley wrote on Sep 25, 2007 1:57 PM:Ms. Brandone take a lesson from Captain Shipley. It happened to his house many times and he didn't have the SWAT team stake out the perimeters. It is harmless fun usually meant as a sign of friendship or affection, NOTHING more. Get the hose out to get the tendrils of paper you can't reach. This article is such a crack up. Maybe CSI should be called in.

Bill wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:05 PM:It is classic Carlsbad immaturity.

Mom to 2 Teens wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:41 PM:I have lived in Calavera Hills for 21yrs and have been TP'd over a dozen times this mom needs to get a life if this is all she has to complain about! Jeanne try having shredded paper along with TP you would most likely have a heart attack! And way to put pressure on you daughter wih most likely has trouble fitting in because she is active in band! Looks carry you so far great lessons you are teaching her!

Surprise Surprise wrote on Sep 25, 2007 2:58 PM:You know it's really no wonder the majority of kids today are so disrespectful and rude. Any parent who laughs this type of activity off as a prank is doing a disservice to themselves, their children and their community. They should be teaching their children to respect others and to keep their hands of what doesn't belong to them!

Steve wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:10 PM:My parents house was TPd when I was in HS. I cleaned it up, not my Mom or Dad. No these kids dont have the "right" to do it but at the same time do you have no other problems in your life? I understand she is mad, but she called her attorney?

To Scott wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:23 PM:I would agree with that assessment.

wow wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:27 PM:"There's no guarantee that's the reason, but usually somebody likes somebody in the house,"... NOT!

To "Surprise Surprise" wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:34 PM:We live in an "anything goes" society now. The common theme is "If it feels good, do it!" We have former juveniles raising new juveniles now.

the mom is lame wrote on Sep 25, 2007 3:47 PM:What a COMPLETE waste of time!!!! This mom needs to wake up because herself and her daughter are nothing special. Tons of people get TP-ed every year, it is really no big deal.And to the mom maybe this shows you that if you have nothing better to do than to complain and lose your mind over a little prank, then you must really have no life...

Pathetic wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:18 PM:I was a teenager once too. You really need to get a life. Talking about your daughter being slender? What does that have to do with anything? Is this a dating page? Someone is a little controlling parent who needs to get a grip on things, and realize she isnt the first person to ever be TPed.=

ME wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:22 PM:LMAO LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL Thanks NC Times I needed a good laugh tell Marias mom to do an all night stake out LOL

that's whats cool wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:25 PM:about living in a tough gang neighborhood, even if my daugther is cute, the kids walking down the street at night with TP would be lucky to get out of the hood without getting beat down or shot.=

Definition of Vandalism wrote on Sep 25, 2007 4:54 PM:"The willful or malicious destruction or defacement of property." (source is the Websters Law Dictionary) ... TPing someone's house may not be destructive, but it's certainly defacement so it is absolutely 100% VANDALISM and should not be tolerated in the slightest.

Chillaxxx Mom!!! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 5:10 PM:This is LOl funny who would freak out over TP the mom needs to take a chill pill and relax its justTP everyone does it!!!

toilet paper crew wrote on Sep 25, 2007 5:28 PM:this is a joke. i cant believe you would embarrass your daughter like this although she might of deserved it.. but let me say i have been tped 4 times in 1 week! and not one complaint.. big deal they do a good job then u salute them and then find revenge.. u dont call the police and an attorney but its your money to waste so go for it! mainly i think both the mother and maria should take a chill pill cuz its just a harmless teen prank.. AND YES JUST A PRANK to the other parents like this... im just thinking about how much of a waste of life it must be to do what you have done.. i could go on forever=

questioning citizen wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:03 PM:i wonder if SWAT would be willing to do a stake out. seeing as this is a major issue.

train station guy wrote on Sep 25, 2007 6:04 PM:what about all the graffitti all over the buildings and walls at the pointsettia station!! Carlsbad is covered in graffitti and your worried about toilet paper? ! I want to thank those young people for filling the local dumpters with some very usefull toiletries for me.

Call in Homeland Security!! wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:11 PM:Mom why are you stopping with the paper, the local law enforcement Captain and your lawyer? I think Michael Chertoff with Homeland Security and the FBI might be interested in this crime spree! This criminal TPing must stop!!

Maggie wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:16 PM: Police offer parenting classes , Maybe mom should read the next article....

Disgrace wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:19 PM:As a parent of two teenagers I have to say that I am completely dismayed and disappointed by the response to this article. While it's certainly not high crimes & treason, it is beyond what is (or at least should be) acceptable behavior. My children know good and well what would happen if they defaced anyone's property. It doesn't matter if it's eggs, or toilet paper, or forks (what is up with that?!) or spray paint. It's not something I ever want to have happen to my property and, therefore, is nothing I would ever condone happening to someone else's. You parents who support, encourage or otherwise approve of this type of action should be ashamed of yourselves! I can't wait to see which jail system your kids end up in!

Everyone Does It? wrote on Sep 25, 2007 7:21 PM:I'm 37 and I've NEVER done it. My wife is 39 and she's NEVER done it. My kids are 14 & 18 and they've NEVER done it. Who is this everyone you're talking about?

To Toilet Paper Crew wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:07 PM:" i have been tped 4 times in 1 week! and not one complaint" ... Well, that's your prerogative. If you don't mind the property that you've worked for and pay probably about 2 or 3,000 a month for to be defaced by useless & ill-mannered imbeciles then that is your business. However, I find it absurd that you would deny such a basic defense of property to someone else. You must have a household of those same useless & ill-mannered imbeciles. I'm not sure who I pity more ... you for breeding them or me & others like the mom here who have to share our air with them and you for condoning such adolescent behavior.

whatever...... wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:00 PM:how lame the mom acts like her daughter never TP-ed someone's home. before she goes around preaching to others about how kids are so truely disrespectful these days maybe she should try to perfect her own first.

CHILL wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:04 PM:This mom needs to chill. I wouldnt be surprise if she had done some TPing in her younger days myself.... Get the spoiled brat kids out there and clean up... not the parents be for real!!! Double dose her next time kids!!!

get control of your kids (again) wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:12 PM:tp'ing someones house is technically a crime, and its not funny at all. I shouldn't have to waste MY TIME to clean up someone elses kids "fun tp'ing adv112`1`

Gary in Murrieta wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:18 PM:I done it when I was in high school, and the house accross the street from me gets done about once or twice a month.

relazx wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:22 PM:its not a big deal

toilet paper crew wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:38 PM:i want to apoligize to whomever replied to my comment for the sorry life u have.. theres no problem in having a little fun in life.. stop being so up tight and live a little.. to whoever wrote this comment i have got news for you.. YOUR NOT BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE.. so get over it.. your sharing air with me for the rest of your life and you better learn to enjoy it! 98% of this world would think this topics stupid and the parents should get over it.. but the other 2% think that kids should be arrested or something?? the other 2 would be u who replied to my comment and the girls mother

tping crew baby wrote on Sep 25, 2007 10:26 PM:its not a big deal it was all in good fun so relax

To Toilet Paper Crew wrote on Sep 26, 2007 6:29 AM:I don't believe I'm better than anyone else ... I just don't understand people who support the defacement of other peoples property. You don't have the right to throw your trash on my lawn for any reason but especially not just because you think it's fun. I also don't think the kids need to be arrested ... I just think they need parents who teach them that it's not ok to mess with things that don't belong to them.

To Gary in Murrieta wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:17 AM:"I done it when I was in high school" ... that statement alone explains so much!

c'bad observer wrote on Sep 26, 2007 9:53 AM:This is truly an amazing story and blog. I think most of the nayers consider themselves to be old (mentally) and probably tp'd (or something similar) when they were younger but, of course, in their "wise years" would never think of such a thing. The family with h/w 37 and 39 and kids 14 and 18 - you are a phenomenon. And truly the mother does need to find a higher power to have faith in - just think if this is how some of our politicians/police officers and officials handled such a serious crisis....lol

O'side Res wrote on Sep 26, 2007 10:15 AM:You should try it, its fun!

COPPER wrote on Sep 26, 2007 10:54 AM:We get calls like this all the time. We will generally not take a report, nor will we arrest someone for anything. It's not a crime that will be prosecuted with the DA. Parents would be better off handling their own kids on this kind of thing.

cynic wrote on Sep 26, 2007 11:21 AM:if the emotional energy expressed in these comments could be directed to our community's real needs we'd all be better off. that said: to every parent, we owe the community our best effort and, knowing many of you, i think we do pretty well. i know all the kids involved, they are all good kids who have and continue to contribute to their community. To those holy-than-though, I never did goody-two-shoes and I hate breeder folks out there, Bill Clinton didn't inhale either. You can fool yourself into believing your own bs, but you know and we know that you made bad decisions as a teenager too. People like you make it harder to convince young people that tolerance is valued in our society by labeling human beings imbeciles for making a bad decisions and jumping to conclusions like tp'ing leads to jail. GET OVER YOURSELVES.

TP'd Before wrote on Sep 26, 2007 11:38 AM:That has happened to my home. Yes, it is a prank, but where do you draw the line? Does it stop with just the toilet paper, or at the shaving cream on car paint, or egg on the house? I guess the best way to look at this "prank" is what would happen if it were done to a business? Or, a city officials house? I really don't think it is very funny, unless the ... that do it come back and clean it up later. Either way you look at it, trespassing enters into it. If it so OK, why do the ... wait til you are asleep to do it. ...

To Cynic wrote on Sep 26, 2007 12:32 PM:I'm a breeder who hates breeders who fail to teach their children the basics. Tolerance is one thing but so is courtesy. One great way to start displaying basic common courtesy is to not deface something that doesn't belong to you. Whether it be with toilet paper or shaving cream or eggs or spray paint ... if you didn't pay for it then leave it alone!

Concerned Neighbor wrote on Sep 26, 2007 12:44 PM:... You posted all of the other comments, why not that one? [Editor's note: Assertions of questionable information will not be posted. See nctimes.com/blogpolicy]

Cops wrote on Sep 26, 2007 1:40 PM:Dear public...please don't tie us up with petty stuff like this. We love to serve you, but come on!!!!

Not a crime wrote on Sep 26, 2007 1:52 PM:To Disgrace I bet most of the people in prison never tped in their life they were busy doing real crimes that led them there. If you think everyone who tped in their life ends up in the jail system you've got to be kidding. Ask around i think you'd be surprised who has done it in their lifetime. Tping does not lead to jail be serious. By the way i was honored as a kid to be tped. I had fun laughing and wondering who did it while i cleaned it up!!!

Understanding Mother wrote on Sep 26, 2007 4:57 PM:You have to get a grip people. Although it is a relatively harmless thing, it is not victimless. You and I know that this an extreme reaction, it's still got to burn that this has happened twice. Were the two events close together? It's just probably lack of sleep, and frustration talking. Lighten up on the Mom. I'd be angry, too. Focus your attention on the poor kid who will now be tortured by the publication of this article. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the main form of extra-curricular activity in Carlsbad for a long time!

To Not A Crime wrote on Sep 26, 2007 6:35 PM:I am serious ... please try to get the point and not be stupid. The point is that supporting or condoning one crime is almost certain to lead to others somewhere down the road. I do not believe that TPing someone's house is what leads to a jailhouse life. I believe, and logically so, that it is the overall and blatant disregard for other people and other people's property that ultimately leads to the deteriorated lifestyle which leads to that outcome. This starts at home and the fact that these kids don't learn the basic difference of right and wrong is a problem. If a parent is willing to turn their back or condone one type of vandalism (crime) then what is the limit? Where is the line? When is enough too much? What makes TP more acceptable than eggs? Are eggs more acceptable than spray paint and, if so, why? You cannot believe that it's acceptable behavior to deface something that isn't yours to begin with and, if you do, I'm even sorrier for us now than I ever was.

to cynic hater wrote on Sep 26, 2007 7:42 PM:you make the point but let me make it clearer for those of you who cant appreciate nuance: no matter how well your parents tried to instill basic and advanced values in you, to a certain extent, you ignored them, made mistakes, and learned from them. Thats how it works. That is, except for you, the person who never made a mistake, or, more likely, lives in denial because, frankly, that's all your intellect can handle.

Re; To Cynic Hater wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:06 PM:I'm not saying I've never made a mistake. That would be ludicrous at best. I've made plenty and am pretty sure there are more to make. However, I can confidently say that, while my decisions certainly affected me and some of the family close to me, I've never taken it to a criminal route. I would agree that there would be some value in the bad behavior if those behaviors were learned from as that is what reasonable people hope to do with the bad decisions they make. Unfortunately, with regards to this topic specifically, they will more than likely not be learned from since it is clear from the majority of posts here that say it is entirely acceptable to deface someone else's property without consequence. There is not so much as an inference that respect or courtesy is something the majority of these posters value or try to instill in their children. I'm not suggesting you can control every action of your child because you can't ... but there is a big difference between trying to do what's right and completely condoning what is wrong.

Re: Not A Crime wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:09 PM:Uh ... Yes it is a crime. The legal definition of vandalism is The willful or malicious destruction or defacement of property ... To throw toilet paper (or anything else purposefully) is definitely willful and likely malicious. It may not be destructive, but it is defacing. Therefore, it is a crime. It may not be the crime of the century but IT IS A CRIME!!!!

Not a Crime wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:14 PM:To Disgrace this is the last time i waste my thoughts on kids tping. The only really sad part of this is the waste of the newspapers, police and lawyers time. She did not get egged and if she does then i support you. This is a childhood prank that's it, no guns, no violence, no real misery like you see in the papers every day. I feel very sorry for the family who went to this extent to make a point. They are getting ridiculed and it is too bad. The point is if she had dealt with this prank as we and all people do this would not be an issue. Stop passing judgement on kids tping it has been an age old pastime. To the kids who did the tping I would be more worried about the people you are tping. It is not the same world I grew up in. Stay home and be safe.

Night Owl wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:19 PM:I've never been a victim of such adolescent behavior, but it happens to my neighbor regularly. While it's not necessarily something to call the cops over, even my neighbor is more than fed up. They have come to me specifically (knowing that I stay up late) to keep an eye out for any such situation and to please let them know or to interfere if I'm comfortable. They have kids and they get it ... but they also have property that they work for. They don't want to have to spend what little free time they have cleaning up after inconsiderate degenerates with nothing better to do. Please people ... keep control of your kids or, at the very least, make sure they know what is and is not acceptable behavior.

To Not A Crime wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:44 PM:I'm not 'disgrace' but I'm curious ... So it's acceptable to TP, but not to Egg? So one level of vandalism is acceptable while another is not? Committing one crime is preferable to another? While I sincerely agree this is not the most horrible thing that can happen to a person, I also can't help but feel you're missing the bigger picture.

Vista Granny wrote on Sep 27, 2007 7:19 AM:Unbelievable! All those comments. I can only say that kids were tping houses 40 years ago. I remember going out for the paper and finding myself in a toilet paper tent of sorts. I laughed myself silly. My kids and the next rain storm cleaned up the mess.

Responsible Parent wrote on Sep 27, 2007 10:50 AM:Let's get one thing straight. It's not always about being liked. The vandals KNOW it's work to clean up their mess, so they usually target someone they have "issues" with. When we were tp'ed, I called the parents of the tp'ers and to my surprise, the mother of one of them drove her son over to help clean up. He was NOT a happy camper, but it taught him an important lesson. My own daughter did it once and I did the same thing...made her apologize and forced her to clean up her mess. It's about teaching our kids consequences for actions and respect for others. Adults work hard to buy a home and maintain the appearance. They spend considerable time keeping a yard and home nice. The last thing any of us wants to do after putting in a full day of work, is clean up some other people's kids' mess. To those who think it's just "fun"...I'm sure there's other ways to have fun that don't include causing inconvenience and annoyance to others.

Wilson wrote on Sep 27, 2007 5:10 PM:Thank you "Responsible Parent" - you hit the nail right on the head, regarding these kids and learning there are consequences to their actions! The other major issue, that everyone is missing here, is that these kids are out driving cars (in groups) throughout Carlsbad at 2 AM, 3 AM, 4 AM - well past their curfews - in violation of State of CA driving laws and without their parents' knowledge. As a city, we have only been lucky so far that there have not been serious or fatal accidents, as a result of this vandalism.

Finally Someone Gets It wrote on Sep 27, 2007 7:19 PM:Kudos to both Responsible Parent and Wilson for seeing the bigger picture and the problem with these so called 'harmless pranks'. If only such common sense was contagious!

O'side Res wrote on Sep 28, 2007 10:43 AM:Hey Responsible Parent, I hear there were some kids running on the blacktop at a public school, better go stop them!

To Oside Res wrote on Sep 28, 2007 5:10 PM:I'm sure there are ... fortuantely running on the blacktop is not a crime ... vandalism is. It's very disheartening to see so many in our community so willing to turn their backs on even the smallest of crimes. It speaks volumes as to why our cities and our youths are as out of control as they are.=

Maggie wrote on Sep 29, 2007 6:10 AM:My house was tp'd maliciously. It took 6 hours to clean the mess. The sidewalks had to be power washed to remove nasty remarks. This wasn't the fun experience we had in the past, where it takes 15 mins to clean and you have a laugh. The 2nd night we caught them, and they wouldn't leave. Both incidents consisted of a mob of 30 to 40 girls. Some envious of my daughter because she was asked to wear two football players jerseys, during homecoming week and going to homecoming with a senior boy. Tp'ing is fun only when the motivation is fun, and friendship. To top it all off her car was vandalized causing permanent damage to the paint, vent, etc. So if tp'ing is over the top, it is usually malicious, and is a big deal.

O'side Res wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:31 AM:Toilet papering is a gateway crime. LOL.

To To O'side Res wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:32 AM:Running on the blacktop is against the rules at my kids school.

Running On Blacktop wrote on Oct 1, 2007 9:02 PM:Apples & Oranges Oside Res. While running on the blacktop may violate a school rule (which is still not good) it does not reach the level of criminal behavior. Toilet Papering someone else's house, however, does. I wouldn't suggest that TPing is a gateway crime any more than I believe that marijuana is a gateway drug ... however ... I have to ask ... if you believe (as you seem to) that it is acceptable to select the laws you choose to follow then where do you draw the line? This type of vandalism is a misdemeanor at best, but it is still a legally defined crime. How do you decide which crime is bad and which crime is good or acceptable?-

Waste of our law officers time! wrote on Oct 3, 2007 12:43 AM:Just imagine the poor officers who had to go out on that call. Hope they catch the perps and "throw the roll, I mean book", at them!! Waste of tax payer's dollars

O'side Res wrote on Oct 3, 2007 12:30 PM:Maybe we should make everyone who buys toilet paper register their purchase just like buying a gun.