Escondeeter wrote on May 2, 2007 12:00 AM:One simple argument against making the ordinance city-wide.... fifty thousand permits to be issued by a city that's spent the last five years trying to get its water billing straightened out.

Lame wrote on May 2, 2007 6:18 AM:So now they don't even want you parking on the street any more. LOL what BS

pablo wrote on May 2, 2007 6:52 AM:Nothing new was brought up. Every concern mentioned has already been addressed by other cities. At most twelve people spoke against the proposed ordinance. Most confused about the effects because they have been misled by false rumors. Some concerned that they will have to clean their garage. Others about the cost of a permit but the most expensive annual cost in other cities cited was $100. That is 28 cents per day. Less than $2 a week and Escondido's city council has said they want to keep our costs as low as possible so the eventual cost will most likely be even less.

Robert24 wrote on May 2, 2007 7:02 AM:Good 'ol Roy Garrett, looking out for all of those "multiple bread winners" living in the same house, and going to work, helping to stimulate our economy (and, I'm sure, not sending their money "home"). You wouldn't by any chance be one of those "slum lords" renting to those "multiple bread winners" now, would you Roy? I didn't think so, 'cuz these are single family homes, and it would be illegal to rent to multiple families, oops, "multiple bread winners" all stuffed in to one single family home........

escondido resident says wrote on May 2, 2007 7:56 AM:good job city council. our beautiful city is becoming an eyesore. i think our council is the only elected leaders in this entire country to have a clue. President Bush should ask Marie Waldron for advice.

bryan wrote on May 2, 2007 8:44 AM:City council has good intentions but this is a bad idea. Instead we should require that each home have only one family. Not sure how this could be enforced. Escondido clearly has huge problems relating to crime, gangs, graffiti, poverty, hit and run accidents and multi-families in one home. Surely we are not the only city with these problems. We need to look for better solutions.

CR wrote on May 2, 2007 9:03 AM:I hope the majority on the Council will go through with this plan, but 100 "exemptions" per year is far too many. It is time to clean up the ghetto that Escondido is rapidly becoming. Just because the Mayor's neighborhood doesn't have 6-8 cars per home, do something right for the rest of the city!

No Report On San Marcos Parking Restrictions? wrote on May 2, 2007 9:05 AM:San Marcos is considering parking restrictions to combat overcrowding in residential areas! http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/04/29/news/inland/3_01_254_28_07.txt

AMAZED wrote on May 2, 2007 9:30 AM:at some folks who feel that storing their vehicles on the public streets, while their garages are full of junk (not to mention a fire hazard!) should get a clue. Other cities are miles ahead of us and they don't have to deal with lower property values and multiple families crowding into neighborhoods because their residents care about the appearance of their neighborhoods. Bravo council!!!!! Let's clean up this city one street at a time!

TO BRYAN wrote on May 2, 2007 9:31 AM:Great in concept to require only one family per house, but there is not any legal way to enforce it. If the council could have done that, they would have....

prospective home buyer wrote on May 2, 2007 10:15 AM:As a prospective home buyer I applaud the city council for taking on a stand on such a sensative topic. I am looking at buying a home in the 600k range, paying mello roos and association fees. I certainly do not want to live in a community where its inhabitants do not take pride in its appearance, its safety or its cleanliness. If this passes, the community will only benefit. If you're a home owner how can you not want this to happen unless you don't have pride and care about your community.

To Lame wrote on May 2, 2007 10:48 AM:You need to read the proposed ordinance. If you even read the newspaper story you would know that it is an overnight parking ordinance just retricting parking from 2-5 am and there are plenty of variances and exceptions. Sure this will be inconvenient for many of us but its worth it. I'm tired of houses with 5 families and 10 cars parked all over the place; streets, yards, etc. That also translates into overcrowded schools, hospitals, etc., with no increased property tax to support them. Guess who gets to pay for the shortfall - that would be those of us who follow the rules. Its worth it. Way to go City Council.

AResident wrote on May 2, 2007 12:08 PM:I'm glad Mr. Garrett spoke. Unfortunatly he is a land lord and I'm sure that he has some of the property's he manages having more than 1 family living in them. That is due to as he said HIGH rent. As a landlord he is responsible for the HIGH rent. The city should not target everyone. Only those who choose to rent to multiple or have multiple people with cars living in their homes. The neighbor across the street rents 3 bedrooms. No one works cars up and down the street. This individule should be fined for this. He has no concern for others living in the neighborhood. Besides he only comes out after dark. I guess this is due to not wanting anyone confronting him or the ... that hang out there.

Bob wrote on May 2, 2007 1:07 PM:How about an ordinance prohibiting parking cars and trucks on your front lawn.

Gardener wrote on May 2, 2007 2:14 PM:....also, the slum lords to clean up their properties. Why do we have to live in neighborhoods where most home owners take pride in their front lawns but the slum lords let the weeds grow and the grass turn to dirt!? How about an ordinance for that? Their renters don't care and the slum lords are only in it for the money so why should they care?

AResident wrote on May 2, 2007 2:41 PM:Want to add that any home that uses more that the frontage of the property to park should be targeted. The property manager or home owner should have to widen the drivway and or create more on site parking. Use your front yard for the overnight guests. How are they going to get a permit if they decide to pop in at midnight. Are they going to be made to stop and get a permit upon coming into town? Is the city going to deliver the permit to your house if the person is staying because they have had too much to drinik? There are a million reasons that this is a hair brain idea. This is not going to raise property values. Leave it to a realitor. Typically they call CODE INFORCEMENT as soon as they get a listing. As in our neighborhood. Then when the new buyer moves in they have more junk than anyone else. Why didn't the realitor let the new home owner know this? Could it be all about the COMMISION???????????? THE CITY SHOULD TARGET AREAS WHERE THERE IS CROWDING. THEY SHOULD TAKE IMMIGRATION WITH THEM. THIS WAY THE BIGGER PROBLEM WILL BE SOLVED LEGALLY.

jan wrote on May 2, 2007 3:32 PM:Im wondering...pay to park on the street infront of your home..umm ..will the profits from this be going to the City to cover those MILLION dollar sewer fines or to make up for the monies lost in the bad deal with the Energy plant?I will have to think about this while I am at my respiratory appointment this week.:::cough, cough::; looking for a parking space...cant wait for the next election!

marilyn wrote on May 2, 2007 4:08 PM: If you have a garage, clean it out and put your car in it. Am really tired of trucks, trailers, and RVs on residential streets. Is there an ordinance requiring weekend RV-ers to put their vehicle in a storage lot or at least in their own driveway? Dangerous, with vision blocked by large bulky vehicles suddenly looming when you turn a corner or on one of many curving streets.

2/3 spoke in support of the ordinance, wrote on May 2, 2007 4:18 PM:this reporter can not count correctly. Our city council should be commended for addressing the over-crowding. Someone mentioned Escondido's problem with fines for a sewage issue. Has anyone given thought that the overcrowded homes might be contributing to sewer problems?

To Gardener wrote on May 2, 2007 4:37 PM:Yeah, right. We all will soon be asked to conserve water due to the small amount of rain and the low level of the Sierra snow pack that feeds our water supply. For almost everyone the largest part of water usage is, you guessed it, THE LAWN. It's time to consider not only where our priorities are, but to have less water-hungry landscaping.

Jorge wrote on May 2, 2007 4:45 PM:Did someone say park a car in a garage? What? Are you nuts??? Those garages house a couple of families each!

Steve R. wrote on May 2, 2007 5:05 PM:AResident hit the nail on the head with his comments. On my street about 13 adult aliens live in one home with equally number of vehicles parked on the street with many leaking oil destroying the city's street. My relatives and guests have trouble finding a place to park. Sure most don't have auto insurance. Come on city of Escondido get some backbone and do something to correct this long on going problem.

Heady wrote on May 2, 2007 6:05 PM:To finance a standard of living of a car, apartment and meals is $3000.00 USA dollars.

Henry wrote on May 2, 2007 7:19 PM:I thought there was already some kind of fire ordinance that restricted the amount of people living in a home. Why doesn't the city enforce that??

For or Against wrote on May 2, 2007 7:44 PM:11 spoke against, 2 weren't clear enough to tell, 17 spoke in favor...but wait, most of those in favor live outside the city boundaries. Gardner x 2, Bennet x 2, Hunley, Hill x 2, Spencer... Where do you people get the nerve?

Jayson wrote on May 2, 2007 8:04 PM:Inevitably, whenever I drive past an open garage door in Escondido, I am rewarded with an excellent view of TEN TONS OF JUNK AND GARBAGE piled high and deep. Mr. and Ms. America, trust me when I say that your unused, dust-covered exercise equipment and your old Simon & Garfunkel LPs, and your leaky fibreglass kayaks are just that-- JUNK AND GARBAGE.

Shari wrote on May 2, 2007 10:06 PM:how about issuing 1-2 parking permits per household for street parking? A few years back, we gained sidewalks on 9th avenue but, many homes with driveways lost them due to city guidelines: "you must have a driveway that leads to a garage or you can't have a driveway." Many these older homes have garages that have been converted to bedrooms long ago. Since they took away our driveways, we were told to park on the street!! Now where do we park? i am from a one family home!!

Not funny anymore wrote on May 2, 2007 10:24 PM:This council has made a joke of Escondido.

Dan wrote on May 2, 2007 10:26 PM:I live at home with my sister and her husband. We're each hard working, legal adult residents who share a home to make ends meet. And we each have cars. How is that contributing to slum-like conditions or illegal immigration? Why should we be punished?

hmmmm. wrote on May 2, 2007 10:27 PM:Well I for one would be happy for that! I live on a culdesac in west Escondido. At the end of the culdesac is a rental home. It is constantly changing hands/renters. There has been in this "single family home" up to 6 families that I know of, with twice as many cars, and up to and perhaps over 25 people living there.. (Lets not mention that there are 17 children under the age of 18 on my street, with most of them under 10). These people think that it is ok to convert the street in to a parking lot and a race way. They race around, with no respect for the other home owners, blasting fiesta music from their cars at all hours. I'm sure all of you opposed to this would love to have that in your neighborhood. Yes, it does wonders for property values, and I don't feel like my kids can even ride their bike any more without VERY CLOSE supervision. So...I vote yes.... clean up our residential streets.

hmmmm. wrote on May 2, 2007 10:29 PM:Not to mention the fact that another neighbor insists on parking his tree trimming/hauling trucks and his rv on the street every day!!! sick of it!!! Get rid of it!!!! Clean it up!!!!!

Alex C. wrote on May 2, 2007 10:49 PM:This is ridiculous. The city of Escondido has 16,000 high school students, many of whom attain a driver's license and car between the ages of 16-19 years of age. Where on earth are these students supposed to park their vehicles when both parents and some siblings each have a vehicle of their own. This ordinance also restricts the teens from staying overnight at their friends' simply because they won't be permitted to park their car. Moreover, what about college students returning home for the summer and winter/spring breaks? How would you like that welcoming? "nice to have you back Sara, but you can't park at your own house." As a professional youth/young adult worker, all I can say is that this is a terrible proposal.

AResident wrote on May 3, 2007 11:55 AM:Well fine folks of Escondido. It's time to NOT RELECT the city officials. Yes there should be something done about the parking problem. It should NOT however affect everyone in the city. Go to the next meeting voice your concerns. Let them know that if they are going to charge for permits then they should charge to ride bicycles, scooters and scate boards. This is all about driving the illegals out. The city should make each landlord reduce the amount of rent that is charged by 50%. This will allow others to go get their own places. If there are multiple family living in a dwelling. Their legal status should be checked. Has anyone though about. OK if all we need is a permit to park on the street, everyone will go get one. YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM JUST WITH PERMITS SAYING THEY CAN PARK ON THE STREET. IS ANYONE HOME IN CITY HALL???????????????

Craig wrote on May 4, 2007 7:29 AM:Obviously this is another hot issue. My neighborhood isn't an illegal alien haven and I am still frustrated with the amount of vehicles parking in the street. If your garage is full of crap, it's time to clean out the garage. The majority of the time I can't park in front of my own house because all the neighbors and their frequent visitors are parked there. This could be illegal alien based but it also will help clean the town up.